Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tekig1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekig1!gregr From: gregr@tekig1.UUCP (Greg Rogers) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: CD reflections Message-ID: <1824@tekig1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-Jan-85 03:37:25 EST Article-I.D.: tekig1.1824 Posted: Tue Jan 22 03:37:25 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Jan-85 07:18:26 EST References: <81@unc.UUCP> <667@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Reply-To: gregr@tekig1.UUCP (Greg Rogers) Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 38 Summary: One more into the fray ..... How long can this argument about CD sampling rates continue to go on? Having watched this discussion the last several weeks I've never seen so much false, misunderstood information being used by people that clearly know very little about sampling and digital signal processing. This must be very confusing to readers who have an open mind about CD's and are looking for some 'technical facts' to augment their listening opinions. I certainly don't want to silence the critic's of CD's but I think a little responsibility is in order here. If the critics would go back to commenting on the sonic problems they hear, and quit trying to 'technically explain' the causes of these problems, then the digital experts could quit wasting energy correcting all the half-truths and no-truths. For those digital signal processing experts that believe there are significant problems with the CD format, please speak up and lets have an "intelligent educated" dialogue so at least some of us might learn something relevent here. To rephrase this simply "lets all talk about what we really understand or ask questions about what we don't, otherwise silence is golden". By the way this isn't a new problem, the same thing happens with analog audio. People that don't really understand the technical issues often seem compelled to validate their observations by giving totally false misunderstood explanations for what they hear. The difference is that more people understand analog processing than digital, and its easier in the analog domain to educate the untrained with intuitive arguments. The result is the misunderstandings are much more quickly corrected and continue to exist only among the hardcore 'flat earth' types. This in no way implies that their sonic observations are faulty, simply that their explanations are invalid. However, this can lead to some mighty expensive ineffective solutions to their problems. So you see there is justice, the ignorant eventually pay ($$$) for leading others astray. Greg Rogers Tektronix explanations