Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwrba!cepu!ucla-cs!reiher From: reiher@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.books Subject: Re: Mr. Dubuc on pornography Message-ID: <3334@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Sun, 20-Jan-85 03:12:12 EST Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.3334 Posted: Sun Jan 20 03:12:12 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Jan-85 05:36:38 EST References: <764@ames.UUCP> <4612@cbscc.UUCP> Reply-To: reiher@ucla-cs.UUCP (Peter Reiher) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 22 Summary: I am unwilling to allow abridgement of free speech on the flimsy evidence presented so far (which mostly amounts to attempts to prove by vigorous assertion) that pornography is harmful. I think that kiddie porn is not a good example, due to the fact that children are widely treated as different from adults under the law. As far as Mr. Dubuc's assertion that art works better under constraints, there is some truth in this, but self imposed constraints are the ones that count. Had I the talent to be an artist of any sort, I would refuse to obey any other kind of constraints. I suspect that this is the generally held view among artists. Would you really like to argue that it was the Production Code that contributed to the greatness of Hollywood in the 30s and 40s, that being forbidden to even deal with certain subjects made for better films? I would not like to have to defend that position in a debate. I think that the varying positions have been made pretty clear in this discussion. Unless someone has something really new to add, why don't we get back to discussing books? -- Peter Reiher reiher@ucla-cs.arpa {...ihnp4,ucbvax,sdcrdcf}!ucla-cs!reiher