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From: mag@whuxlm.UUCP (Gray Michael A)
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Subject: Re: Pornography doesn't degrade women ...(re: E. Leeper)
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Date: Tue, 22-Jan-85 09:37:42 EST
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> 
> One cannot so easily dismiss what happens between the porn
> actress/producer/customer.  It is an unfortunate reality that
> ultra-profitable businesses like pornography attract a criminal
> element that is willing to go to ridiculous measures for profit.
> Kiddie porn is one result .. but there are others.  There is an
> underground type of film called a 'snuff film'.  In these movies,
> the producers will promise anything to the porn actress to secure
> her cooperation.  At the end of the film, the actress is killed,
> both on-screen and in real life!  Talk about degradation of women!
> I don't think any of these movies have been made in the US, but
> they are available in this country through the same channels that
> distribute kiddie porn. Hence, although I have no moral objection
> to standard pornography, I would tend to shy away from patronizing
> distributors of it until it is available through more legitimite
> channels.
> 
>                                 Ben Broder
>                                 ..vax135!petsd!moncol!ben
The snuff film stuff was big in the news a few years ago.  Despite
intense efforts by many government agencies, no one has yet actually
found a snuff film that wasn't faked -- i.e., the actress was OK.
Even the idea of a faked one nauseates me, but this debate is not
helped by rumors of this sort being perpetuated.  To me, the idea
of a snuff film is orders of magnitude worse than kiddie porn(which
I loathe the idea of also).  To make the bald statement that snuff
films are as available as kiddie porn is exaggeration in the extreme!
Snuff films AREN'T available.  The US government tried to find one
for years!  All they found were lots of rumors and no celluloid.

Mike Gray, BTL, WH

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