Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cadre.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!decvax!mcnc!idis!cadre!geb From: geb@cadre.UUCP Newsgroups: net.legal,net.politics,net.flame Subject: The city that works Message-ID: <193@cadre.ARPA> Date: Tue, 22-Jan-85 10:25:29 EST Article-I.D.: cadre.193 Posted: Tue Jan 22 10:25:29 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 25-Jan-85 21:26:18 EST References: <776@reed.UUCP> <709@hou2h.UUCP> <912@amdahl.UUCP> <305@desint.UUCP> <170@cadre.ARPA> <531@mhuxt.UUCP> Reply-To: geb@cadre.ARPA (Gordon E. Banks) Organization: Decision Systems Lab., Univ. of Pgh. Lines: 27 Xref: watmath net.legal:1356 net.politics:7134 net.flame:8021 Summary: Chicago may still be the city that works. A black man pulled a gun on a mugger and shot him dead. Chicago also has a gun law requiring a permit to even possess, let alone carry a handgun, and the man didn't have one, but unlike NYC, Chicago only prosecutes real criminals in these cases and no charges were brought against the man, since it was self-defense. Contrast the attitude of Mayor Koch & Gov. Cuomo. When I lived in Chicago, it was well known that judges would not sentence a citizen for having a handgun, although the police would confiscate it if you were caught with one. The handgun law was applied against criminals mostly. Another Chicago story: the Tribune ran a campaign against handguns in 1980 or so. They devoted a special page to pictures and stories of all people killed by handguns that week. I think they had believed that it would be mostly wives shooting their husbands or kids shooting each other. I was amazed at the percentage (~30%) of those killed with handguns that was comprised of criminals burgarlizing, raping, or robbing citizens, mostly in the black ghettos where a large percentage of citizens are armed. After 3 weeks or so, the campaign disappeared with little fanfare. I surmised it was because after reading that page, it made one more likely to want to have a handgun at home for protection.