Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!trwrb!cepu!ucla-cs!das From: das@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang,net.games Subject: Re: Crossword puzzles Message-ID: <3593@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Wed, 6-Feb-85 01:33:54 EST Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.3593 Posted: Wed Feb 6 01:33:54 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Feb-85 04:31:18 EST References: <7727@brl-tgr.ARPA> Reply-To: das@ucla-cs.UUCP (David Smallberg) Distribution: net Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 32 Xref: watmath net.nlang:2532 net.games:1560 Summary: Will Martin writes: > I recall a Thai fellow-student in an Army class at Ft. Lee being completely > bewildered by a puzzle I was solving (it happened to be a Kingsley double- > crostic, but in many ways similar to ordinary crosswords); he found it to > be something completely alien to his experience. If there's a language written with an alphabet that would be hard to construct crossword puzzles in, it's probably Thai. Out of curiosity, I naively tried to learn the alphabet to be able to sound out the names on Thai menus -- the book (!) explaining it was about 60 pages long. [Thai is written with an alphabet, not a syllabary.] The forms and positions of the vowels change depending on their tone and the tones of other syllables. Some vowels are written like Pakistan at the Partition -- part before and part after the consonant which precedes it when spoken. Sometimes different vowels in different circumstances have the same written form. [I may have some details wrong, but you get the idea.] I gave up. From an information theoretic viewpoint, it seems clear that the more redundant a language, the harder it is to construct an American-style crossword puzzle (i.e. highly interconnected). A crossword puzzle construction book I read (forgot the title & author) said that the easiest way to construct a puzzle is to draw the framework, blacken the pattern, fill every other square (checkerboard style) with random consonants, and then fill the rest with random vowels. Then perturb it until every horizontal and vertical is a word (work on the long ones first, then go area by area, changing letters until everything's set). Then make up definitions. If there's a theme to the puzzle, you might first fill in the long words with words/phrases of the theme before adding the random letters. -- David Smallberg, das@ucla-cs.ARPA, {ihnp4,ucbvax}!ucla-cs!das