Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site grkermit.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!mhuxn!mhuxm!mhuxj!houxm!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!grkermit!bills From: bills@grkermit.UUCP (Bill E. Schaffer) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Classic Records Message-ID: <432@grkermit.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-Jan-85 18:06:34 EST Article-I.D.: grkermit.432 Posted: Tue Jan 29 18:06:34 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 31-Jan-85 02:43:46 EST References: <119@sci.UUCP> <3326@alice.UUCP> <406@pyuxd.UUCP> Reply-To: bills@grkermit.UUCP (Andrew W. Rogers) Organization: GenRad, Inc., Concord, Mass. Lines: 49 Summary: >> To all who think Abbey Road, the White Album, or Sgt. Pepper >> is the best Beatles record, go back and listen to Revolver. >> >> It's a real sleeper. [ANDREW KOENIG] > >Seconded. Most especially the (original) British release and not the >American version.... [RICH ROSEN] I agree - "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver" (US *or* UK) are my favorite Beatles albums for basically the same reasons RR points out - consistently good material plus the ability to use the studio creatively (without overindulging in studio gimmickry to nearly the extent of much of their later work.) The care that went into the arrangements is particularly evident on "RS"; note how the instrumentation varies between songs and the textures vary within songs. (Yes, they had begun experimenting with different instruments back in the Beatles '65 - Beatles VI era, but then they seemed to be just dabbling with effects to compensate for generally lackluster material. On "RS" and "R" the unusual instruments - sitar, french horn, double-speed piano, harmonium, fuzz bass, etc. work with the material instead of appearing merely as decoration.) The US release of "Rubber Soul" omits four tracks from the UK release ("Nowhere Man", "What Goes On", "If I Needed Someone", "Drive My Car"), replacing them with two tracks *not* on the UK release ("I've Just Seen a Face" and "It's Only Love" - did they *ever* appear in the UK?). As RR pointed out, those four tracks, plus four from recent US singles and three premature releases from the "Revolver" sessions ("Dr. Robert", "I'm Only Sleeping", and "And Your Bird Can Sing" [not "She Said She Said"]) were thrown together as "Yesterday and Today" for US release. (I believe one of the latter is an alternate take of the version on the UK "Revolver".) Reportedly, the Beatles' displeasure at such an obvious ripoff (hardly the first one, either) prompted them to pose for the notorious "butcher" cover. (Capitol didn't have the balls to release it in '66 - but once they knew they could cash in on it, they not only re-issued the cover in "Rarities" but actually *advertised* the fact! Shpxvat hypocrites!) On a related subject - a while back there was a TP question concerning the Stones' "12 x 5" LP. I'm sure the British netters are scratching their heads over that one! Like "Yesterday and Today", "12 x 5" was a U.S.-only release - the Stones' US label (London) turned two UK albums (plus singles and outtakes) into three US albums. The first ("The Rolling Stones") made the transition abridged and retitled ("England's Newest Hit Makers"); the second ("The Rolling Stones No. 2") was literally split in half - the cover photo appeared on the US "12 x 5", while the liner notes appeared on the US "The Rolling Stones Now"! BTW, An alternate take of "Time Is On My Side", recorded at Chess Studios, appears on "12 x 5". AW Rogers