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From: lydgate@reed.UUCP (Chris Lydgate)
Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion
Subject: Re: It Cant Happen Here
Message-ID: <829@reed.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 20-Jan-85 21:31:07 EST
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Posted: Sun Jan 20 21:31:07 1985
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References: <658@ihopb.UUCP> <236@talcott.UUCP>
Reply-To: lydgate@reed.UUCP (Chris Lydgate)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
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Summary: 

In article <236@talcott.UUCP> gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg Kuperberg) writes:
>
>[O= 10,000 people]
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>1) War deaths in Cambodia in the past ten years (largely due to war with
>Soviet-backed Vietnam):
>
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
>2) War deaths in El Salvador in the past ten years (Note that I said *ten*
>years, not just the four that Reagan's been in office):
>
>OOOOO

	Wait a second. I thought that most of those deaths in Cambodia
	were due to Pol Pot, whose regime was toppled by the Vietnamese 
	invasion. Pol Pot was a Chinese puppet, not a Soviet one. (Let's not
	confuse our bogeymen, here!)


>The main thing is, governments are rarely judged on a comparitive basis.
>As compared to other governments in the world, the U.S.'s government ranks
>fairly well.

		Sure it does. But it lends its support to some really
	deplorable gov'ts. The whole point of Andy's posting
	was that the Reagan administration has refused to allow
	political refugees from US-backed countries in Central
	America to live in the US.  Admitted, these churches are
	breaking the law by sheltering refugees. The tragedy is
	that many of these people would be in real danger if they
	remain in their own country; and the administration refuses
	to let them in, because to do so would be to admit that
	our client-states aren't as friendly as some of us would
	like to think.

		The churches are doing what they think is
	right; now we have returned to the problem of civil
	disobedience etc.

		Chris Lydgate