Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site drusd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!ihnp4!drutx!drusd!phl From: phl@drusd.UUCP (LavettePH) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Re: Gun Control Message-ID: <1212@drusd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Jan-85 15:51:22 EST Article-I.D.: drusd.1212 Posted: Fri Jan 25 15:51:22 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 27-Jan-85 06:38:55 EST Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 44 > > Blah, blah, blah, blah-blah-blah-blah, blah... except on the "Rockford > Files" and other such real-life adventures, I've never heard of anyone > being killed by a "zip gun." > > Why do we need to control the "zip gun," Phil? > > --- das > >Note that the missing predicate to my argument is that, while no one (or at >least damn few) folks are ever hurt by "zip guns", my newspaper is filled >with stories of people getting greased by the beloved handgun. > > --- das The fact that you never heard of them doesn't mean that they didn't exist. Abandon your TV long enough to research back into the evolution of the big city juvenile gang wars, etc., in the thirties, forties and fifties. Regular hand- guns were very hard for the young crowd to come up with in those days so they made their own. The radio,movie and newspaper people glorified the subject and they became a status symbol. We (and I include myself) all made them. We could hardly wait until the senior year in high school when we could take machine shop and turn out a barrel that would take pressures higher than the car antenna's one or two shot .22cal limit. Some of these weapons were unique and very soph- isticated in their design and probably many of us went on to rewarding careers as gunsmiths, machinists or mechanical engineers. Others weren't so lucky and wound up as statistics or in jail. I can't site you references because I didn't take notes along the way. I would suggest you take a look at some of the NY Times or Daily News archives for the period, visit a good police crime museum or wait until some of the better gang war movies show up on your TV. If you can't do that, try visualizing "Hill Street Blues" moved back in time and technology to that period. The gang war segments they show are not too far from reality. I understand the series is based on the "hill" district in Pittsburgh. If it is, you won't be too far off. I know. That's when and where I grew up. Since the term "zip gun" offends, I'll modify and ask you the question again. How do you control the home-made pistol? - Phil