Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site unmvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!unmvax!cliff From: cliff@unmvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: freedom, democracy, etc Message-ID: <610@unmvax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 26-Jan-85 05:55:36 EST Article-I.D.: unmvax.610 Posted: Sat Jan 26 05:55:36 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Jan-85 06:38:56 EST References: <630@wucs.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Univ. of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 34 > Examples like this show that democracy is absolutely the worst system of > government. > Except for all the others. > Including libertarianism. If you are such a fan of unrestrained democracy, why aren't you writing anything that supports it rather than the status quo? It seems there are quite a few people willing to say "I really like what we have just now--after all, *I* am well off." Isn't this why so many people say democracy is the best thing, yet what they really stand behind is the democratic republic set forth by the U.S. Constitution subject to all the restraints of the Bill of Rights and the other amendments? Sure, go ahead and say that democracy is great, when what you mean is what we have now is great... I would *love* to see democracy on the national level. When I lived in New Hampshire I could see democracy in action--the town meetings. One man--one vote is quite a powerful concept, as long as the vote is directly on a proposition, rather than on which of three or four crooks will make thousands of unrestrained decisions in the next few years... Is it any surprise that the state that still supports democracy has some of the most fiscally sound policies (e.g. no broad based state tax)? In addition to the town meetings, New Hampshire has one of the largest congressional bodies (possibly third behind the U.S. senate/house and British Parliament) even though it still has a small population. The result? it is hard for special interests to effectively control such an unwiedly body. I don't agree with Richard Carnes that we need socialism, but I do agree with him that the current set up is quite unfair and needs overhaul. --Cliff [Matthews] {purdue, cmcl2, ihnp4}!lanl!unmvax!cliff {csu-cs, pur-ee, convex, gatech, ucbvax}!unmvax!cliff 4744 Trumbull S.E. - Albuquerque NM 87108 - (505) 265-9143