Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site hogpd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!ahuta!hogpd!hfavr From: hfavr@hogpd.UUCP (A.REED) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.philosophy Subject: Re: A short economics lesson for Mr. Mc Kiernan Message-ID: <476@hogpd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Jan-85 22:32:29 EST Article-I.D.: hogpd.476 Posted: Mon Jan 28 22:32:29 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Jan-85 08:15:49 EST References: <314@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> Organization: American Bell, Holmdel NJ Lines: 23 Xref: watmath net.politics:7242 net.philosophy:1408 ichard Carnes' articles bears out his claim that he posseses no expertise in economics, but the questions he raises are interesting ones. The controversy about the possibility of calculating/measuring values in the absence of a free market, started by Ludwig von Mises, Oskar Lange, Enrico Barone and others, led to the creation of a new field of mathematics applicable to the social and human sciences called "Measurement Theory". This new field clarified the concepts underlying the controversy by establishing an exact hierarchy of scales of measurement. In terms of the new terminology of Measurement Theory, von Mises proved that in the absence of a free market, no ratio scale of economic value could be defined, and therefore no relative calculation could be validated. Barone, however, showed that an ordinal value scale could be defined even in a socialist economy, and contemporary Socialist economists believe that comparative calculation, which can be validated against such a scale, is sufficient for the purpose of economic planning. Thomas Sowell, the originator of Cognitivist (a.k.a. neo-Austrian) economics, argues in "Knowledge and Decisions" that individual calculations based on market knowledge (in the form of ratio scales) are necessarily closer to optimality than collective calculations based on comparative scales. The issue, incidentally, has relevance beyond economics, since all existing theories of distributive justice pre-supppose values measurable against a ratio scale. Adam Reed npois!adam