Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site druxo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!drutx!druxo!nap From: nap@druxo.UUCP (Parsons) Newsgroups: net.women,net.politics,net.books Subject: Re: Beyond Marchionni and Dubuc (and Winslow) [PORNOGRAPHY] Message-ID: <795@druxo.UUCP> Date: Thu, 31-Jan-85 11:58:27 EST Article-I.D.: druxo.795 Posted: Thu Jan 31 11:58:27 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Feb-85 00:48:38 EST References: <434@pyuxd.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 47 Xref: watmath net.women:4325 net.politics:7292 net.books:1353 Rosen: > ...The fact remains, just because some > utterance or action is deemed to be degrading does NOT necessarily mean that > it MUST be eradicated through censorship or whatever. Parsons: Some of my comments are certainly vulnerable to being interpreted as supporting censorship. Sorry. I'm not arguing for censorship, but for an understanding of why I find pornography (as I define it :-)) degrading. ... Rosen: > Greed alone is not a vice that is >to be eliminated, especially not in a capitalist economy. Parsons: I've often pondered that. Greed is an ugly character trait, but most economies (not just capitalist) depend on it and great harm would come to many millions without it. Parsons: >> ...we do already outlaw particular types of work >> (e.g., drug dealing)... >> ...All of the >> arguments I've heard so far about why pornography should be allowed would >> also apply to drug dealing. One might argue that one is more harmful than >> the other, but where does one draw the line? Rosen: > ...One "draws the >line" at acts that involve direct harm, like murder or theft or assault. To >try to draw it anywhere "further back" is going to lead to problems, without >solving the problems you started out with. Parsons: Are you saying that selling drugs to an adult is an act that involves direct harm? Rosen: >[P.S. Given the fact that many have expressed NONinterest in this discussion, > where is it actually proper to continue it? Parsons: Me, too. Nancy Parsons AT&T ISL