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From: josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall)
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Subject: Re: What is socialism?
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Date: Mon, 4-Feb-85 21:13:17 EST
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> I guess the "H" in JoSH stands for Humpty-Dumpty .... Words mean exactly
> what I wish them to mean, no more, no less .... 
...
> For what it's worth: to me, a socialist cares about all the people in
> a society, ...  Libertarians (as self-defined on this net) care
> only for themselves.

> Martin Taylor

Well, there's nothing like castigating someone for something, and
then doing the very thing yourself, as flagrantly as possible...

You've got your definitions exactly backwards.  Socialists care only
for themselves, for the things that matter: Morality, justice,
freedom, power.  They put on a front of concern about material
equality--hunks of matter distributed by head count--as a rationalization
for their lust to control, their ivory-tower contempt for the 
ability of ordinary people to make their own way in life.

Libertarians, on the other hand, crave an equality of justice, an
equality of rights, an equality of moral personhood and responsibility.
For this they are willing to put up with the uneven distribution
of material goods that must result.

--JoSH