Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site amdahl.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!amdcad!amdahl!gam From: gam@amdahl.UUCP (gam) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Wage Rates: Unions, Minimum Wage Laws, and Employer Oligopoly Message-ID: <1103@amdahl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 6-Feb-85 23:05:32 EST Article-I.D.: amdahl.1103 Posted: Wed Feb 6 23:05:32 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 7-Feb-85 13:29:13 EST References: <811@ratex.UUCP> <63@spar.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Blue Mouse Trailer Resort, Hellmouth, CA Lines: 21 I have seen this "dark satanic mills" quote before, and rebutted it before. The synopsis of the rebuttal is: Human beings have adapted thru various technological/economic revolutions (you didn't even mention the Agricultural Revolution!). All that Weiner has pointed out is that people will shift into different jobs as certain jobs become obsolete or are best handled by machines. This process has been going on since (at least!) the Agricultural Revolution. (As it happens, the long-term future of the job market is in *technological* and *entertainment* areas, due to growth of technology and increased leisure time). As for a system based on "human values", isn't that exactly what we have -- a system based on what humans value? Or did you have some philosophical goal in mind? -- Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam