Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gitpyr.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!gitpyr!owens From: owens@gitpyr.UUCP (Gerald Owens) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: 2 Chuq articles Message-ID: <45@gitpyr.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Jan-85 11:25:16 EST Article-I.D.: gitpyr.45 Posted: Mon Jan 21 11:25:16 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Jan-85 05:49:45 EST References: <2133@nsc.UUCP> <1648@pucc-h> <2201@nsc.UUCP> Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 57 > > > >From Chuq Von Rospach (nsc!chuqui): > > > >>> Without the pretty face she will not buy the package at all. > > > >> If you aren't careful, your Manufacturer could get sued for > >> deceptive packaging that way. > > > >No, I'm the one who makes the package; it's not His fault. > > If you fail, He can't be sued. If you succeed, why should He get the credit > then? That's what you are doing, you know, taking the failures upon > yourself without the praises. It goes both ways, jeff. Listen carefully, Jeff. Chuqi was saying something that I had realized last June. I refused to accept it, told God to take a hike and not come back until He took His own sense of justice seriously. did it hurt? Sure. I was POSITIVE I'd get shafted in a class I was taking, since He'd get SOOO mad at me. But then, it wouldn't have been just, would it?? I realized that too. In a sense, I was scared of Living without God, afraid of what would happen to me. Why, I would have to accept the failures that happened to me! Of course, He was making me do that anyhow, so I told Him to go away until He got serious. Of course, all this wasn't God, but what I had interpreted to be God, that is, the small voice in my head that gives a running commentary of all that I do. We ALL have this small voice inside. For many, it takes on an approving tone. For you, it's always disapproving. I told my little voice (or twerp, as I call it) that I wasn't going to listen to it, that it was ridiculous and unfair, so just shut up or change it's tone. I reasoned that if it WASN'T God, then God wouldn't mind, while if it WAS God, then I'd be better off without a god like that. Well, I got an "A" in the class, I FINALLY think I'm succeeding in finding an SO (I first met her two weeks AFTER I told "God" to take a walk), and "God" finally "came back" and "said" that He was sorry and wouldn't be so unjust again. The cardinal rule in a religious life is this: Refuse to lie for ANYBODY. For yourself, for your neighbor, for your friends, even for God. If the main support for a belief rests upon a weakness of the adherent, then the system finds it advantageous to keep the adherent weak, and not help him/her become strong. Is your VERSION of Christianity one that helps you, or could it possibly be trying to hurt you, and is disguised as an "angel of light"? To everyone else: Sorry about the public nature of this response to Jeff. Chuqi said something that I just HAD to quote. I felt that Jeff's problem is religious at it's base, as was mine, so forgive the fact that this wasn't posted to net.religion -- Gerald Owens Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!owens