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From: seifert@mako.UUCP (Snoopy)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Splitting up net.singles
Message-ID: <541@mako.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 26-Jan-85 18:17:21 EST
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Posted: Sat Jan 26 18:17:21 1985
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Keywords: Jeff singles Christians
Summary: 

Regarding the way people have been treating Jeff lately:

> I wouldn't give this treatment to a dog, much less a person. 
>
> chuq, still upset.

That's good, 'cause we bite.   :-)


	<<< FLAME ON >>>

OK, I've had it with this ridiculous idea of creating a new newsgroup
for one person, and with all the jerks who are playing "kick Jeff".
Grow up, people!  What makes you better than he is, huh? And don't
say that he posts "inappropriate articles", and that you don't,
because it's YOU JERKS that are posting the inappropriate articles.
You say you don't want to read articles about people's personal problems?
Well just unsubscribe to net.singles and any other group having
anything to do with people, and restrict your reading to net.androids,
ok?

	<<< flame off >>>

(gee, this article was a lot cooler the first time, before rn
threw it in a black hole! oh well.)

Now, let's look at this problem coolly and rationally.  There are a lot
of articles posted to net.singles.  On many assorted topics, most of
which are somehow remotely connected to being single.  This USED to
be an extremely nice, supportative group.  Now everyone's yelling at
each other.  Bad news, ya know?

Jeff's articles, and the followups they generate, have been causing
a good bit of unrest lately.  They are also a significant percentage
of net.singles traffic at times.  So some people want to give Jeff
his own little newsgroup, to get him and his friends out of their hair.
Other's have suggested that they use their 'n' key, or have rn
kill these articles.  Well, 'n'-ing articles is a pain if there are
a lot of them, especially at 1200 baud and/or on a slow machine.
The rn program isn't availaible on every machine, and cannot
do a perfect job of screening anyway.

It has also been suggested that we do our corresponding with
Jeff via mail.  Hey folks, we *have*.  But much of the discussion
*is* suitable for the net, as it can be useful to others.
(speaking of which, yes Jeff, I know I owe you mail. I'll get to it. -sigh-)

So let's look into splitting off some of net.singles into another
group.  Now, there are other topics that people don't want to see
in net.singles besides Jeff. (Unfortunately, I didn't save a copy
of Chuq's survey.)  I see two reasons that people are objecting
to Jeff's articles.  One is Jeff's estensive use of "yes, but"
as an answer.  The other is that Christianity is an integral part
of the discussion, and many people just don't want to read about
anything even remotely related to Christianity.

There are also quite a few other articles dealing with life as a
Christian single, and the Christaphobics object to these as well.
And there is a lot more discussion which just doesn't happen
simply because neither net.singles nor net.religion.christian
seems like the right place.

So, HERE'S THE BEEF:

How about net.singles.christian ?  Most or all of the Jeff-related
discussion could take place there, as well as all the other
Christian-singles related discussions.  There is certainly enough
traffic to warrent this group, and it would greatly decrease
irritation of the Christaphobes and the flames resulting therefrom.
There are other possibilities for the name, such as
net.singles.religion.christian, or net.religion.christian.singles,
but these are rather long.

OK gang, whatcha think?

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