Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uw-beaver Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!mhuxn!mhuxm!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!laser-lovers From: laser-lovers@uw-beaver Newsgroups: fa.laser-lovers Subject: Re: PostScript printers vs. ImPress printers Message-ID: <589@uw-beaver> Date: Sat, 26-Jan-85 01:51:02 EST Article-I.D.: uw-beave.589 Posted: Sat Jan 26 01:51:02 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Jan-85 07:37:04 EST Sender: daemon@uw-beaver Organization: U of Washington Computer Science Lines: 41 From: Brian Reid Perhaps I am confused, but Brian seems to be saying that PostScipt uses a size-independent outline description for a character in a particular font, and can arbitrarily rotate it before conversion to a bitmap. Nope, that is what I am saying. You are not confused. I was under the impression that there was no such size-independent representation. Isn't that what the whole hoopla over bit-tuning is all about? Certainly MetaFont is incapable of producing a uniformly great font at 300 dpi resolution, 10 point. It may or may not be impossible, but the PostScript printers do it and do it well. If you want to see an example, look at the recent POPL conference publicity. The flyer announcing the conference announcement was set with Scribe on an Apple LaserWriter in 8-point Times Roman using a font described with ordinary outlines. One of the recent issues of CACM (I think it was the November issue) had a 2-page advertisement for the POPL conference somewhere towards the back. That advertisement was also set on an Apple LaserWriter in PostScript. It isn't quite so remarkable because it uses 10-point letters and does not use any rotated fonts or graphics, but it is an example of the PostScript raster conversion. Remember that it has been through a printing press. I have carefully avoided learning anything about how the internals of the PostScript font mechanism work, because I often have difficulty keeping my mouth shut and I don't want to give away any Adobe secrets. But you may rest assured that an ENORMOUS amount of software cleverness and expertise in the nature of laser printers has gone into the PostScript system. I think that I will have to doublecheck back with the folks at Adobe to find out what I am allowed to say and what I am not allowed to say before I give you any more information about the font representation, but please understand, for the moment, that the fonts are indeed represented as size-independent outlines and that they can be artitrarily scaled and rotated before being scan-converted and that the scan-conversion works just fine in point sizes down to 4 on a 300dpi printer. Brian