Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cmu-cs-cad.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!teddy!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-cad!mjc From: mjc@cmu-cs-cad.ARPA (Monica Cellio) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: The pregnant criminals Message-ID: <248@cmu-cs-cad.ARPA> Date: Sun, 20-Jan-85 17:18:03 EST Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-c.248 Posted: Sun Jan 20 17:18:03 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Jan-85 06:14:19 EST Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 42 From: andrews@uiucdcsb.UUCP >Taking an innocent human life is what is wrong, this person has done nothing >wrong due to his own fault, he should not be killed for the "sins" or "mistakes" >ok those who caused him(or her) to come into the world. Yes, taking an innocent *human* life is wrong. I do not believe this applies to abortion, since the only *humans* involved are the parents. >When two people have sexual relations, one of the possible outcomes is having a >child, however much unwanted this child is. They should face the consequences >of their action. If I go outside in the middle of winter without an adequate coat (or if I mistakingly believe that my coat is sufficient protection), one of the possible outcomes is the flu. Your logic would imply that I don't have the right to take drugs to kill off the (living) bacteria. Yes, the analogy is farfetched in some respects, but I am trying to defeat the "logic" of "you knew it was a possible consequence so even if you believed you were doing everything in your power to prevent it, you *must* accept the consequences". It just doesn't hold. >This low respect of committment to human life and people in >general is what has led to our allowance of infant killing and euthenasia. I don't think this society "allows" infant killings, and depending on how you define euthenasia (do you mean active, i.e. pulling the plug, or passive, i.e. letting a person die?), the latter might not be relavent anyway. >It can also be seen in the high divorce rate, people no longer feel any need >to stick out problems, they just kill them off in one way or another. I expect the high divorce rate is due more to "rushing into things" (deciding to get married when neither party is really sure) rather than an unwillingness to try to solve problems. Divorce is a painful process and I don't think most people do it lightly. Eliminating the problem is a perfectly valid way to solve it. -Dragon -- UUCP: ...ucbvax!dual!lll-crg!dragon ARPA: monica.cellio@cmu-cs-cad or dragon@lll-crg