Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cmu-cs-cad.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!teddy!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-cad!mjc From: mjc@cmu-cs-cad.ARPA (Monica Cellio) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Re: Perhaps my question isn't so simple Message-ID: <249@cmu-cs-cad.ARPA> Date: Sun, 20-Jan-85 17:26:55 EST Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-c.249 Posted: Sun Jan 20 17:26:55 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Jan-85 06:14:46 EST Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 27 From: masscomp!philabs!bunker!garys@CMU-CS-PT.ARPA (Gary M. Samuelson) >> [Someone on when humanity starts] >> ... there are no transitions that are sufficiently >> more significant than others to *require* a recognition of a >> change of status. Thus *any* splitting points must be *arbitrary*. >> Thus we are back to the original question, why should *your* >> dividing line be prefered to anyone elses. > >Because the dividing line I use (it's not *mine*, I didn't invent >it) is measurable, and ensures that we don't deny the right of >life to any human being, even if we aren't sure when an embryo >becomes a human being. Do you have a dividing line for which >you can make the same statement? If all we're looking for is a measurable dividing line, what is wrong with time of birth? It's certainly a lot more obvious than time of conception. [I can see it now: the anti-choice folks get conception declared as start of life, then prosecute women for reckless endangerment for (say) drinking and risking a two-day-old fetus' existence.] It's quite measurable, and makes sense in that it is the moment when the fetus ceases to be physically dependent on its host for its own existence. I.e., at that point it ceases to be a parasite and becomes a proper individual. -Dragon -- UUCP: ...ucbvax!dual!lll-crg!dragon ARPA: monica.cellio@cmu-cs-cad or dragon@lll-crg