Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2(pesnta.1.2) 9/5/84; site scc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!pesnta!scc!steiny From: steiny@scc.UUCP (Don Steiny) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Re: Dividing Lines Message-ID: <342@scc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 26-Jan-85 23:14:34 EST Article-I.D.: scc.342 Posted: Sat Jan 26 23:14:34 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Jan-85 04:45:16 EST References: <150@spp1.UUCP> <252@scgvaxd.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Personetics, Inc. - Santa Cruz, Calif. Lines: 34 > > I propose that we should consider the "fetus" a human > being until proven not! > Ok, if I got drunk and accidently knocked you down the stairs and killed you, I could get tried for homocide. What should we do with a pregnent woman who gets drunk, trips, falls down the stairs and miscarries. If a fetus has the same status that someone who has been born has, then that woman would have to be tried for homocide. Any miscarrage whatsoever would have to be subject of a homocide investigation. Since some fairly large percentage of pregnancies do not come to term anyway, it would keep the police and courts pretty busy. What happens if a mother does not have proper pre-natal care and her child is disabled in some way? What is the difference between that and a woman who, say, gives her infant child alcohol, tabacco, and other drugs. If the child has been born, then it is obviously child abuse, what if it has not been born? It is nonsense to think that we could give a fetus the same status as someone that has already been born. The dividing line is not fuzzy at all. The logical consequences of giving fetuses the same status as the rest of us are absurd. -- scc!steiny Don Steiny - Personetics @ (408) 425-0382 109 Torrey Pine Terr. Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 ihnp4!pesnta -\ fortune!idsvax -> scc!steiny ucbvax!twg -/