Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site scgvaxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!mhuxn!mhuxm!mhuxj!houxm!ihnp4!pesnta!pertec!scgvaxd!dan From: dan@scgvaxd.UUCP (Dan Boskovich) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.women,net.abortion Subject: Re: a pro abortion argument Message-ID: <256@scgvaxd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-Jan-85 10:33:34 EST Article-I.D.: scgvaxd.256 Posted: Tue Jan 29 10:33:34 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 31-Jan-85 01:49:04 EST References: <4662@cbscc.UUCP> Reply-To: dan@scgvaxd.UUCP (Dan Boskovich) Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA Lines: 38 Xref: watmath net.politics:7266 net.women:4309 net.abortion:1141 Summary: In article <4662@cbscc.UUCP> lvc@cbscc.UUCP (Larry Cipriani) writes: >By Mike Gray: > >> Start putting out reasoned moral argument and refutations of anti-abortionist >> positions instead of wasting time arguing with anti-abortionists. Their >> position is well-solidified. It is usually religious in nature, >> meaning that it is based on faith. You can't argue with faith. > > (For an argument against faith read 'Atheism: The Case Against God') > >Try this pro abortion argument: > >My position on abortion is that the fetus, like a 'brain dead' person >on life support equipment, is a dead human being (for a time) on life >support (i.e. the mother). > >If one accepts the propostion that it is acceptable to stop providing >life support for a 'brain dead' person, then necessarily one must accept >that it is acceptable that the mother be allowed to stop providing life >support for a 'brain dead' fetus. I would add that this period of being >'brain dead' lasts roughly 28 weeks. So, although this is not a blanket >support of abortion, it should find support by many people. As far as >rights are concerned, the dead don't have any. > >Lastly, I would add that, I think abortion is always a sad thing to do, >but the best of several bad alternatives. > >Larry Cipriani Send mail or respond in net.politics, I don't >cbscc!cbsch!lvc read net.women nor net.abortion. This argument is unacceptable and invalid. No one in their right mind would pull the plug on a "brain dead" person if the Doctor assured the relatives that in a matter of several weeks the patient would experience a complete recovery and live a healthy life. The DEAD have no rights???? The fetus represents the beginning of life, not the END of life. Obviously, this analogy breaks down at its very core!