Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site unmvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!teddy!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!unmvax!cliff From: cliff@unmvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Floppy audio? Message-ID: <586@unmvax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 19-Jan-85 18:24:24 EST Article-I.D.: unmvax.586 Posted: Sat Jan 19 18:24:24 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Jan-85 05:38:09 EST References: <372@nbs-amrf.UUCP> Organization: Univ. of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 57 > I noticed in a recent issue of Stereo review (~ 2 or 3 issues back) a single > page article about a prototype of a new audio recorder that had just been > reviewed by the author. PCM machines are available now. > The interesting thing about it was the effective use > of a standard computer floppy (I think 5 1/4", single side, double density) as > the recording medium. With the benefit of what seemed to be an adaptive > sampling technique, over an hour of high fidelity music could be recorded on a > single disk. Three hours can be stored on one L-750 beta videotape with my Nak Digitizer; I believe some companies are trying to get their digitizers to be compatible with all speeds of VHS and Beta which would allow up to 8 hours per tape. > The reviewer said > that, while the sound may not be up to par with CD's, he felt it at least > measured up to any vinyl (or was it any analog medium?) around. The price > mentioned was somewhere near $1000 (1100?). I suspect the quality of sound that I get out of my digitizer is much better than what you would get off a floppy with their box. (i.e. it is a 16 bit 44k sampler). I got my box for $1250 although I believe Techniques selss one for around $800. (Of course you need another VCR, but that shouldn't cost too much more). > Such a thing, if bona fide, has a lot going for it. Foremost is the > opportunity to use it to to record as well as play back - the lack of which is > CD's chief drawback for me, followed closely by their expense. On that count > floppies would be a much a more economical medium once their density could > measure up. Floppies measure up to laser disks...I am not holding my breath. > There too the technique ("adaptive sampling"?) could be applied > in many directions if it really works. ^^ still not holding my breath. > I've been holding out on buying a tape deck, and if this thing is > genuinely hi-fi, with the inevitable (?) refinements of any onset technology, > it could mean the death of tape decks at least (turntables, CD's? Maybe not, > too many people have too much to lose there.). I understand Sony and friends are working on a better resolution VCR. If it catches on you might see more interesting PCM boxes. PCM is here; it works. (I'm not counting on the death of the cassette for quite a while, 8-tracks maybe, cassettes no). > Ken Manheimer {seismo,allegra}!umcp-cs!nbs-amrf!manheimer > (Existence is influence. Probably.) --Cliff [Matthews] {purdue, cmcl2, ihnp4}!lanl!unmvax!cliff {csu-cs, pur-ee, convex, gatech, ucbvax}!unmvax!cliff 4744 Trumbull S.E. - Albuquerque NM 87108 - (505) 265-9143