Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site yale.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!mhuxn!mhuxm!mhuxj!houxm!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!yale!francois From: francois@yale.ARPA (Charles B. Francois) Newsgroups: net.audio,net.wanted Subject: Re: Wanted -- Discount price for Nakamishi Message-ID: <276@yale.ARPA> Date: Sat, 26-Jan-85 20:36:41 EST Article-I.D.: yale.276 Posted: Sat Jan 26 20:36:41 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Jan-85 06:17:12 EST References: <1602@ittvax.UUCP> <2145@uw-june> <20019@lanl.ARPA> Reply-To: francois@yale-comix.UUCP (Charles B. Francois) Organization: Yale University CS Dept., New Haven CT Lines: 42 Xref: watmath net.audio:3946 net.wanted:5643 I've had good luck with a "grey market" store in NYC called "E. 33rd Typewriter & Electronics". The expression "grey market" is, I think, used to describe those, usually seedy, discount audio/video/electronic stores with low prices, no attempt at service, and a no-refund one-week-only exchange policy. The equipment they sell is often, I suspect, illegally imported from the Far East without the manufacturers' blessings. But the prices are good, and if you know *exactly* what you want and are willing to accept only the manufacturer's implict warranty, you can save a lot of money. The problem is that, typically, those kinds of stores carry the lowest common denominator in audio equipment, the likes of Sony (non-Esprit), Technics, JVC, etc. East 33rd differs from most of these shops in having a well-lit interior, and in carrying selected items from the lines of Denon, Yamaha, B&W, and Nakamichi. They regularly advertise on the last page of the Arts & Leisure section of the Sundsay NY Times and (in somewhat more detail) in the Village Voice. An ad from a recent Voice quotes prices of $400 for the Nak BX-150, $660 for the LX-5, $525 for RX-202, $719 for the RX-303, $879 for the RX-505 and $1295 for the Dragon. I've bought a lot of equipment from them in the past including my Walkman DC-2 the week they got it five months ago for $125, and my Yamaha CD-X1 around the same time for $400 (after haggling, in person, from $450). And that was before Yamaha slashed its list price from $600 to $500. Of course, there was the matter of the loosely packaged unit, and the little piece of paper filled with Japanese print, and the photocopied, stapled English-language manual, but considering they were the ONLY folks in the entire city who had it in stock at the time, I wasn't about to complain. And I yet have to get a skip or anything but unadulterated pleasure from my unit. Their NY phone number is (212) 686-1631, and their toll-free number is 1-800-223-3201. They take Visa, MC and Amex and charge a hefty 10% extra for shipping and handling, compared to the 8.25% NYC sales tax, and to the 6% S&H charge for orders mailed in with a certified check or a money order. Get the idea? As I hinted above, shopping in person often makes it possible to work out various "compromises" with the dealer, if you're adept at that sort of thing. Oh, and don't quote me on any of this. If you do, I'll deny everything. --Charles B. Francois {...,decvax}!yale!francois