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From: larry@cci-bdc.UUCP (Larry DeLuca)
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Subject: Re: Pornography doesn't degrade women ...
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>   I think that you have stated the fundamentals of the argument right
> there.  *I*, at least, do not think that *totally* free speech is worth
> another holocaust, or in this specific case, I don't think it's worth
> the warping of attitudes towards women that pornography involves.  

				Tom West

free speech didn't cause the holocaust.  an unfair an oppressive treaty
of Versailles that forced germany into paying all of the war debts and
reducing the entire country to poverty level is what sowed the seeds of
world war II and the holocaust.  While free speech did allow hitler to
be heard, it was not free speech that allowed him to come to power.  He
would probably have been heard then as a raving madman had it not been
for the duress the german people lived under and their desperation to gain
back not only a standard of living above bare-bones survival, but dignity
for their country as well.  

Hitler fed egos, and that's where he won.  it's human nature.  but i
don't see anyone suggesting we should ban human nature or stop saying
nice things to each other and encouraging self-pride.

the holocaust went on because no one could believe the atrocities were
happening.  they were all passed along as rumor, but if there truly had
been free speech under Hitler then everyone would have seen him for the
madman he was and that would have been the end of that.

i wouldn't want the nazis or the born-again's or any oppressive group
to stop talking.  I want to know what i'm up against.

					larry...

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