Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ukma.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!red From: red@ukma.UUCP (Red Varth) Newsgroups: net.books Subject: Re: "Gor" by John Norman Message-ID: <638@ukma.UUCP> Date: Tue, 5-Feb-85 18:18:25 EST Article-I.D.: ukma.638 Posted: Tue Feb 5 18:18:25 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 6-Feb-85 05:39:14 EST References: <543@ukma.UUCP> <3542@ucla-cs.ARPA>, <395@wxlvax.UUCP> Organization: Univ. of KY Mathematical Sciences Lines: 35 Well, it ain't Gor, but it is most CERTAINLY John Norman. I refer to "Time Slave". To all those who've flamed me publically and privately, if you think Gor was bad, try this. The plot (or facsimilie thereof) concerns a crazy scientist who sends a female mathematician back to the Stone Age. I think it's the Stone Age, at least. It's right when Cro-magnan was first developing. What the crazy guy does is hire the mathematician (Brenda Hamilton) under the pretext of needed a computer operator/programmer. He essentially kidnaps her (by keeping her out in the African bush and returning all her mail). Then he and his fellow crazies put her through essentially a mind-conditioning routine -- "Do this, or I'll beat you bloody because I'm a male and you have to obey me." Ad infinitum. What they think they're doing is outfitting her for survival in the Stone Age. I would rather have a course in tracking game or archery or general survival. Among other things, her "training" includes: Having to kneel in the presence of any male. Wearing whatever clothing a male sees fit to give her Wearing cosmetics (which she didn't) Obeying any male immediately. Then they dump her in the middle of a forest buck-naked and expect her to survive. She does, but I think she's damned lucky. She eventually gets captured by a cave-man and immediately raped repeatedly. Sigh. At least Norman doesn't have her ENJOY it. I don't want to give away the remainder of the story; it gives a reasonably accurate guess as to what life was like back then. That part of it is pretty good. Red