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From: boyajian@akov68.DEC (Jerry Boyajian)
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Subject: Ketchup Comments #1
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Date: Sat, 26-Jan-85 10:16:50 EST
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> From:	uokvax!lmaher	(Carl Rigney)

> My best guess is that after Storm teams up with Lady Daemon and
> discovers her heritage in the village of African Shamenesses 
> (Shawomen??) she'll return to Forge for further tutoring in magic,
> or possibly both of them will get taught by Naze.  I don't see
> Dr. Strange as her teacher but it's possible.

Except that Naze was zapped by some mystic force in X-MEN #185 (?).

> ...Doom is even older, since he's a contemporary of Reed Richards,
> who fought in World War II.

But revisionist Marvel History has it that that issue of SGT. FURY in
which Reed Richards appears never happened, or that it wasn't *really*
Reed Richards. Marvel doesn't want Reed to be 60+ years old.


> From:	dartvax!mwm	(Mark Modrall)

> i too share the concerns for the Av future... not only is deni leaving, but
> she's taking the bulk of their titles with her... Cerebus has always been the
> lead ship, but now it will be the only ship.... i worry about dave.. i really
> do....

But, but, but.... CEREBUS was the "only ship" for five or more years before
Aardvark-Vanaheim got uppity and started publishing other titles. I worry about
A-V's future, too, but not because CEREBUS will be the only thing it publishes.
More because it seems that A-V's success was due to Deni's business acumen as
much as Dave's talent.


> From:	fluke!moriarty	(Jeff Meyer)

> there is an ad in the Bud Plant catalog for a book written by someone
> called... Jerry Moriarty?  Gee, maybe we merge...  Firestorm, the Nuclear
> Comics Critic!

SSSHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Now, look whatcha done, ya jerkface! Ya went and spoiled
it! We were supposed to wait to see if anyone *noticed*!


> From:	sdcc7!ma155abl	(Nick Flor)

> Lets all give a hand to Jerry Boyajian for the way he handled
> that question.  It seems that in other newsgroups if such a question
> was asked, the poster would get the flaming toaster.

Aw, shucks. Thanks.


> From:	watcgl!drforsey	(The Gray Mouser)

>> Speaking of old Ditko stuff....
>> 
>> Does anyone remember/admits to having seen Killjoy?
>>
>
> Not only did I *read* Killjoy, I **enjoyed** it!!!
> It was *so* **BAD**!! The exquisite idiocy, the
> *pointlessness* of it all! I couldn't believe anyone
> would actually want to *create* such a comic, let
> alone *publish* it. Yet there it was! There was something
> almost surreal about holding Killjoy stories before my
> eyes, reality warped by the comic's very existence.
> People think that the Batman TV show is inspiredly stupid:
> they obviously never saw Killjoy.....

Now let's not get carried away here! I remember reading "Killjoy", too.
While I can't deny it was awful, I should point out that it wasn't a comic
of its own, but only an occasional back-up feature (only appeared 2 or 3
times, if I remember correctly) in one of the Charlton comics (or was it
Gold Key?). The other back-ups that I can remember were: "The Rook" or
something like that, in which the characters worked for some secret agency
and were all called by chess-piece names, and "Liberty Bell", another Ditko
piece that wasn't all that bad (though not all that good, either).


> From:	Pucc-H:pur-phy!dub	(Dwight Bartholomew)

>	Everytime I read the above definition of the Moriarity scale
> I think to myself "What was this Starlord by Byrne/Claremont?"  I'd
> hate to think that I've missed reading one of the all time best stories
> so I was wondering just what is Starlord?  When was it published?
> Who published it?  Is it hard to get a hold of?

Well, the easy part first: STARLORD was published by Marvel. The feature was
created by Steve Englehart, as a mystical/astrological sort of strip. The
first episode appeared in the black-and-white magazine MARVEL PREVIEW (later
re-titled BIZARRE ADVENTURES) #4, circa 1976. While Marvel waited to see how
well the feature was received, Englehart got pissed at Marvel for other reasons
and left to join DC. The Starlord ball was tossed to Claremont, Byrne, and
Terry Austin, whose story appeared in MARVEL PREVIEW #11. Unlike Englehart,
they chose to present Starlord as a grand space opera, complete with references
to all sorts of classic sf books by Poul Anderson, Jack Vance, Robert Heinlein,
Anne McCaffrey, Jerry Pournelle, Ed Bryant, et al. It stands as one of the best
things the Claremont/Byrne/Austin team ever did. Claremont did another Starlord
story or two with, if memory serves, Carmine Infantino, and Doug Moench did
some stories after that. None of these later ones were nearly as good.
	That Claremont/Byrne/Austin story had the honor of being Marvel's first
Baxter reprint (one-shot) book, and for awhile, the deluxe comics were referred
to as being in the "Starlord format". In the reprint, there was also a framing
sequence (that certainly did the central story justice) by Claremont, Michael
Golden, and Austin. Either MARVEL PREVIEW #11 or STARLORD, THE SPECIAL EDITION
should be reasonably available. It would be worth your while to look it up.

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, Maynard, MA)

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