Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdcsu!haapanen From: haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: PISSED OFF (seatbelts) Message-ID: <861@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-Jan-85 09:11:03 EST Article-I.D.: watdcsu.861 Posted: Tue Jan 22 09:11:03 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Jan-85 04:41:32 EST References: <932@amdahl.UUCP> <43000009@rna.UUCP> Reply-To: haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 60 In article <43000009@rna.UUCP> serge@rna.UUCP writes: >What upsets me is the fact that available auto safety technology >is not used by the car manufactures. I recently saw a documentary >about this car called the Research Safety Vehicle. The RSV included >such features as: >- air-bags Air bags are *not* everything they're trumped up to be. They often act too quickly (in minor collisions), they do not protect from side impacts, they are expensive, they cost a fortune to replace after an accident, they do not allow you to retain *any* control after the impact, ... Give me seat belts any day! >- energy absorbing collapseable engine and trunk sections This is nothing new. The Rabbit was introduced in 1975. It has collapsible, energy-absorbing engine and trunk sections. >- light weight energy absorbing foam in the body panel voids A good idea. Why isn't anybody doing this? Should even be pretty cheap... >- a frame designed to rollover upright without collapsing Most definitely not unique. Any self-respecting designer aims for this. >- reinforced bars in the door panels for side collisions *** These are required by US Federal Laws! *** If you import a European model yourself, you will need to install reinforcement bars in the dors to pass the safety inspection. >- and of course seat belts. >The car was not ugly, it was energy efficient and would carry a >price tag of about 7,000 to 8,000 dollars if mass produced. >Test show that people would come out of 50 mph collision >with a brick wall with absolutely no injuries. I'll believe it when I see it. $7000-8000 ??? Fuel efficient? Most RSVs I've seen have been very heavy, adversely affecting fuel economy. And the 50 mph without injury I'm somewhat skeptical about. *absolutely no injuries* ?? Hmmm... >Then there was the case of the women with a used car that, unknown >to her, had had airbags installed during the short time in the 70's >when they were available as options. She hit a truck head on and the car was >demolished. The officer who first arrived on the scene called for >an ambulance to take the bodies away. He was very shocked to see >the woman and her passanger walk away unharmed. Seat belts would >not have saved them. How do you know that? \tom haapanen watmath!watdcsu!haapanen "This disclaimer may or may not be..."