Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cadre.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!whuxlm!akgua!mcnc!idis!cadre!km From: km@cadre.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: People who gouge others for profits Message-ID: <197@cadre.ARPA> Date: Wed, 23-Jan-85 12:55:43 EST Article-I.D.: cadre.197 Posted: Wed Jan 23 12:55:43 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 25-Jan-85 09:29:08 EST References: <187@abnji.UUCP> Reply-To: km@cadre.ARPA (Ken Mitchum) Organization: Decision Systems Lab., Univ. of Pgh. Lines: 41 Summary: I will admit upfront that I am a physician. Also that I am under 40 years old. I am an internist who works for a *salary*. The preceeding should explain any biases present. The problem is not as simple as it sounds. While there certainly are many situations where physicians overcharge and cases where they legally or otherwise profit from hospital charges, what appears as the final hospital bill represents many things. While the vast majority of these represent the result of physician decisions, hopefully with patient's full consent, the physician in many cases is ignorant of the magnitude of particular charges and how they are incurred. I would like to make a few (biased) points: 1) The major problem is not overcharging, per se, but overutilization of facilities and procedures. A physician may run many unnecessary tests because for several reasons unrelated to any profit motive: a) he may not understand what is going on with his patient so he is trying to cover everything possible. b) he understands quite well what is going on but feels compelled to prove to the patient that nothing else is going on, either for fear of malpractice suits, or because the patient demands it. 2) Many tests result in patient hospitalization because the procedure would not be paid for on an outpatient basis. Insurance coverage is heavily biased towards paying for procedures on inpatients, resulting in hospitalization which is not medically necessary. 3) Insurance coverage is also heavily weighted towards providing payment for tests and procedures, rather than history and physical examination. As a result, physicians are tempted towards learning and performing tests and procedures, rather than spending the time and involvement of a proper history and physical examination. In many cases, spending 45 minutes of time with the patient and doing a thorough history and physical will result in a correct diagnosis, or at least narrow it down, so that tests and procedures are done to confirm what is suspected, and not replace the physician's thinking.