Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-quill!wilner From: wilner@quill.DEC (Ken Wilner DTN 381-2388 ZK02-2/N59) Newsgroups: net.invest Subject: Tandem Message-ID: <380@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-Jan-85 16:51:07 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.380 Posted: Tue Jan 29 16:51:07 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Feb-85 15:00:27 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 43 >Newsgroups: net.invest >Path: decwrl!decvax!bellcore!allegra!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!hou2h!geopi >Subject: Where is TNDM going? >Posted: Wed Jan 2 12:17:44 1985 >Please, I am soliciting opinion, prognostications, clear visions, >expert analysis, rumor, even idle talk concerning Tandem Computers' >future in the fault-tolerant marketplace, and their capacity for >continued growth, given their various emerging competition (Synapse, Stratus), >and the announcement last year of the AT&T 3B20D. >- George P. Cotsonas > AT&T Consumer Products Laboratories > Holmdel, New Jersey > ...houxm!hou2h!geopi I used a Tandem NonStop system for about 1.5 years. While conceptually a nice machine I did not really care for it. The operating system was a real pain to use, and the software in general was extremely hoggish. In general, the only way to solve performance problems was to buy more memeory, CPU's, and disk. This makes a relatively inexpensive system awfully expensive real quick. Hardware fault-tolerance seemed to work, but a few times I saw the whole system crash. Software fault-tolerance is acheived by checkpointing, is not user transparent, and must be debugged by crashing CPU's. For any reasonably complex application it was practically impossible to implement correctly. For all of the above reasons I would think longer and hard before I would be convinced that a Tandem system is the way to go. Although I am not intimately familar with them, it is my impression (possibly incorrect) that all of the other vendors, Stratus, Synapse, AT & T, and Sequoia (you forgot this one), provide software fault-tolerance transparently to the user. This fact alone makes them more desireable than Tandem. Tandem, however, clearly has the advantage right now of market share, and that alone may be enough to keep them on top for a very long time. Ken Wilner decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-quill!wilner