Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site ittvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!crsp!pesnta!qumix!ittvax!allenm From: allenm@ittvax.UUCP (Allen Matsumoto) Newsgroups: net.kids Subject: Re: How to discipline short of spanking Message-ID: <1609@ittvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Jan-85 11:25:50 EST Article-I.D.: ittvax.1609 Posted: Mon Jan 21 11:25:50 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Jan-85 04:59:57 EST References: <286@ho95b.UUCP> <911@ihuxb.UUCP> <121@v1.UUCP> <1899@burdvax.UUCP> Organization: ITT-ATC, Stratford Ct. Lines: 56 [In-reply-to: your article <1899@burdvax.UUCP>] Sorry if I used the wrong word. If you're going to quibble about the particular word "violence" as defined in your dictionary, you're bound to miss the point of the article. What is the proper word for "exertion of physical force NOT to injure or abuse"? (Or didn't you have any idea of what I meant?) > In article allenm@ittvax.UUCP (Allen Matsumoto) writes: > >... > >To make my position explicit, I am opposed to spanking. I don't believe > >spanking is good for raising children. I don't see how it could avoid > >encouraging violence. The occasional use of spanking must be tempered > >with copious amounts of love (if violence has to be resorted to at all). > > According to Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, violence is defined as > "exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse." Now I would not > suggest that there are occasions where parents become abusive in their > treatment of children, however, I would not catagorize all types of > physical discipline as violence. I believe there are appropriate times for > spanking for the proper discipline of children. About the following, I'm sure you're being unfair, if you can read. (Can you read?) Obviously you don't read "with any well-thought-out intentions" of understanding the article. I said in my original article that I don't spank, I don't believe in spanking, and I don't like spanking. Is that clear now? > >It seems to me that anyone who thinks monthly is rare, must have a > >frightening belief of what "normal spanking" would be. Obviously we > >aren't talking about child abuse, but that's still a lot more spanking > >than I would have imagined parents have to resort to. Am I completely > >unrealistic in this? I don't think once a year would bother me (much), > >but once a month? > > Why spank at all, even once a year, if you are so opposed to it? Obviously > you don't spank with any well-thought-out intentions of changing the > child's behavior. In your case it would seem to be both callous and > capricious. > > Tom Albrecht Burroughs Corp. > ...{presby|psuvax1|sdcrdcf}!burdvax!bnapl What is the point of deliberately misinterpreting my article? Does it make you feel better to challenge other people's postings? Do you like "correcting" people enough to go out of your way to mis-read them? You bet I'm defensive when unfairly attacked! -- Allen Matsumoto ITT Adv. Tech. Center, Stratford, CT 06497 203-385-7218 (decvax!ittvax!allenm) : Any opinions expressed are my opinions.