Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2.fluke 9/24/84; site fluke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!fluke!tron From: tron@fluke.UUCP (Peter Barbee) Newsgroups: net.kids Subject: Re: "Spanking (!= hitting)" Message-ID: <875@vax1.fluke.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Feb-85 15:50:39 EST Article-I.D.: vax1.875 Posted: Mon Feb 4 15:50:39 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 7-Feb-85 03:14:37 EST References: <3349@alice.UUCP> <697@bunker.UUCP> Reply-To: tron@fluke.UUCP (Peter Barbee) Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 38 I have now read several rebuttals to Jan's posting and one common (I think it was in all followups) thread was justifying spanking because the child couldn't be allowed to . Most responses had other reasoning to, I'm curious about this one though. Why is it that a child learns better when spanked? I understand one explanation that goes along the line of "spanking proves that the is very bad and that the parent is very serious about what they are saying". My daughter is now 4 and she understands "Katie, I'm really serious about this." and other words like that. I'm sorry, I can't remember when she started understanding but it seems like it was a long time ago. I think that if I spank her I might be teaching her that when I really mean something I hit her. Another explanation (of why spanking should be used as negative reinforcment for potentially lethal games) is that the is so bad that the parent can't allow it to take place even once. But why does spanking need to be the negative reinforcment? Before you flame, I'd like to add that I'm mostly interested in what the answers are going to be. I have, on two occasions, spanked Katie. The first was before I had thought much about the subject and the second was when she caught me with my patience running very thin. In my own mind I can't justify either event but I'm NOT worried about Katie's mental health as a result of them. Peter Barbee decvax-+-uw-beaver-+ ihnp4--+ allegra-+ ucbvax----lbl-csam-+--fluke!tron sun-+ ssc-vax-+ :