Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaero!pesnta!hplabs!sdcrdcf!darrelj From: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) Newsgroups: net.unix,net.micro.pc Subject: Re: Unix for the PC,AT --- abstract Message-ID: <1713@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Jan-85 12:51:30 EST Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.1713 Posted: Fri Jan 25 12:51:30 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Jan-85 02:14:00 EST References: <849@watdcsu.UUCP> <644@hou5a.UUCP> Reply-To: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) Organization: System Development Corp. R+D, Santa Monica Lines: 34 Summary: When reading comments on full-screen editors remember that the reviewer's opinion of full-screen editors is heavily colored by the editors (s)he already knows. There have been at least three radically different full-screen editors on (mostly) minicomputers. The Rand editor (INed, Apple Pie are derivatives and/or imitators). Emacs vi The style of interaction of these are all radically different, enough so that it's very disorienting to use a different one. I used to use Ined (until it finally became de-supported locally by changes in operating software). At that point, I switched to Emacs (more because similar editors are available under Tops-20 and some Lisp machines, and because of the language for writing extensions, rather than style of interaction). The switch to a different editor is harder than learning your first one, because, not only do you have to learn a bunch of new techniques, you have to unlearn reflexes which just don't work. There have been many other full screen editors for other systems, a number of them also fairly different (e.g. Edgar for VM/CMS, Wordstar and Wordmaster on CP/M, Tedit on Xerox Lisp machines--where the mouse considerably simplifies the paradigm in full screen editing. The keyboard does text, the mouse does positioning, selection, commands all by pointing. Highlighting and underlining provide feedback) -- Darrel J. Van Buer, PhD System Development Corp. 2500 Colorado Ave Santa Monica, CA 90406 (213)820-4111 x5449 ...{allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,orstcs,sdcsvax,ucla-cs,akgua} !sdcrdcf!darrelj VANBUER@USC-ECL.ARPA