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From: cem@intelca.UUCP (Chuck McManis)
Newsgroups: net.news
Subject: Re: Re: WARNING
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Date: Thu, 31-Jan-85 11:51:17 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan 31 11:51:17 1985
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Come on people, lets be serious here. What Frank was attempting to
generate is legally defined as a conspiracy and as such he and others
that help him are subject to prosecution (dog turds? come on.) What
qantel was doing by removing his messages from their system and by
not passing them on, was to protect themselves from the same said
prosecution. (Of course we assume someone is willing to file a suit
rather than a flame and this would be rare indeed) The point to be
made here is that in order for qantel to really have been censoring
the news they would need to a.) Cut of some articles (or edit them)
without your knowledge, and b.) Make it impossible for you to poll
the hercules system for the "real" thing. Since they have done
neither I would say they were perfectly within their rights. Since this
system gets its news from qantel I wouldn't mind a bit if they cut
him off. In reviewing his postings to this network I have yet to 
see anything that justifys giving him access to postnews, but that
is something his S.A. has to decide. (I can always IF Article.Id = 
Hercules Then Command = 'N') Something that many people fail to
recognize is that most sites (except a few backbone sites that are
really overloaded) will certainly add you as a POLL ONLY site. 
If they aren't paying the phone bill, and you call during offpeak
hours you should have no trouble at all getting/staying connected.
The backbone sites want something to reduce their phone bills, and
stargate would do that, if all of the systems that were connected
became "POLL ONLY" sites that would also do it. This net is to
big for censorship, no one could ever control it enough to do so.

P.S. Don't worry about your inability to send musings to the people
     reading the moderated newsgroups, if they wanted to read them they
     would read the unmoderated group.
--Chuck

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