Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site tmq.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!tellab1!tmq!peter From: peter@tmq.UUCP (Life gets very Weird) Newsgroups: net.news.stargate Subject: Re: Re: Need for Stargate screening? Message-ID: <133@tmq.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-Jan-85 19:29:37 EST Article-I.D.: tmq.133 Posted: Tue Jan 29 19:29:37 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 31-Jan-85 02:14:09 EST References: <494@vortex.UUCP>, <702@cbosgd.UUCP> <831@hound.UUCP> Organization: tmq/ICOM Buffalo Grove, IL Lines: 35 Keywords: USENET Costs Mr. Grantages seems to imply in his article that his access to USENET is paid for by his discretion to use his computer account to run readnews. I would disagree. USENET is actually paid for by organizations who donate their computer resources and telephone charges to forward news to other sites. It is the administrators and managers at these sites that make USENET possible, and who will determine the future of USENET. I do not forward news to other sites. I am fortunate enough to have USENET at my site because: A) I had existing, sufficent resources (CPU power, disk space, phone lines, modems, etc.) to devote to USENET B) There is another site (Tellabs) willing to forward news to me without charge (Having ihnp4 within the local call area helps) C) Our current accounting setup does not closely budget computer time. If I had to pay for USENET, i.e., poll all the backbone sites via long distance, I could probably not justify to my management how having USENET benefitted my organization (in $$$). I do not think that the day is far off when backbone sites will not be able to afford to forward certain newsgroups (especially when one hears about layoffs, cutbacks and such at AT&T, which provides most of the backbone sites). Stargate is a responsible and commendable effort to lower the cost of USENET, and to distribute its' cost more fairly. USENET started, and continues as an experiment and a do-it-yourself project. If you want some feature/service, it's ultimately up to YOU to provide it. Remember: There is such a thing as a free lunch, but only for a while. -- Peter Kerrigan -- ..!ihnp4!tmq!peter