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From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: Honesty
Message-ID: <265@psivax.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 23-Jan-85 15:22:00 EST
Article-I.D.: psivax.265
Posted: Wed Jan 23 15:22:00 1985
Date-Received: Sun, 27-Jan-85 05:40:45 EST
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Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley friesen)
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In article <4639@cbscc.UUCP> pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul Dubuc) writes:
>
>  It seems to me
>that you interpret any serious problems existing in the scientific
>community as being the "worst" of science--as if it were beside
>the point.  Anything that is wrong with "orthodox" science can
>be thrown in the worst-of-science bucket so as not to impugn science's
>reputation.  Creationism's flaws, however, are assumed (by you)
>to be part of the "best" of creationism.  On what basis?  Maybe
>you know what the "best" of creationism is and the "worst" of science
>and maybe you have objective definitions of "best" and "worst" so
>as to make a meaningful comparison.  I'm not sure I do.  I don't
>see how you can be so sure you do, either.
>
	Actually there are some basic standards that can be
applied.  I have read a number of "scientific" papers by
creationists, I mean supposedly professional publications,
and they have been universally *poor*.  They consistantly
misuse analytic methods, misapply general scientific principles,
use faulty logic, and even use questionable data.  I have seen
*very* few other scientific papers as bad as the typical
creationist's paper, and those have been in disreputable
journals.  Thus it appears that scintific work done by
creationists is generally of far lower quality than is
usual in the scientific community.

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				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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