Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaero!pesnta!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.origins Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! (On Creationism and Religion) Message-ID: <288@psivax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 31-Jan-85 11:51:07 EST Article-I.D.: psivax.288 Posted: Thu Jan 31 11:51:07 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 3-Feb-85 05:44:04 EST References: <202@decwrl.UUCP> <528@mhuxt.UUCP> <239@ihu1m.UUCP> <322@cybvax0.UUCP> <945@ihuxn.UUCP> <331@cybvax0.UUCP> <259@scgvaxd.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 32 Summary: In article <259@scgvaxd.UUCP> dan@scgvaxd.UUCP (Dan Boskovich) writes: > >Haven't you heard of the ICR (Institute of Creation Research) based in >San Diego? There are hundreds of Biologists, Chemists, and Physicists >who believe in creation science on the basis of scientific evidence alone. >There is as much SCIENTIFIC evidence behind Creation theory as there is >the Evolutionary theory. Please don't make statements that are not based >on scientific facts such as: (Creationism is not science. It is religion.) >If you would like some names, facts, etc. I would be glad to furnish them >upon demand. > > Dan The ICR is not an accepted scientific organization, and it was most definately founded on religious ground not scientific. In fact it is closely associated with Dr Morris who is a *minister* not a scientist(he is pastor of a church not far from here). I would be very surprised to find out that any members of that organization are not *also* members of the orthodox/fundamentalist wing of some religion which accepts the authority of Genisis, which is what it would take to establish that it is *not* a religious "theory". If the "scientific" evidence for creationism you are talking about is the stuff I have seen(the SOR pamphlets, other tracts, and a couple of "scientific" books) it is totally worthless. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or quad1!psivax!friesen