Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Fred Mertz) Newsgroups: net.kids,net.philosophy Subject: Re: ah utopia - logic - dicipline - love - flames - kids Message-ID: <452@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Feb-85 19:15:13 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxd.452 Posted: Fri Feb 1 19:15:13 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Feb-85 12:45:43 EST References: <414@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Pristine Area Lines: 25 Xref: watmath net.kids:938 net.philosophy:1425 > The following apparently comes from the "last remaining LIBERAL". > It is a good example of the seductiveness of humanistic "logic". > NOTICE however the following sneaky elements of this "debate": > PUTTING WORDS IN THE OPPONENTS MOUTH ! > SETTING UP STRAW MEN ! > IMPLICIT GUILT BY ASSOCIATION ! > EXTENDING FROM THE SPECIFIC TO THE GENERAL ! > EXTENDING FROM THE GENERAL TO THE SPECIFIC ! > HIDDEN SUBJECTIVITY (NEVER STATING VALUES EXPLICITLY). > IGNORING DISTINCTIONS OF DEGREE ! > [RICK MERRILL???] Amazing what "humanists" can learn from listening to religious demagogues. No smiley intended. By the way, Rick, care to point out specifically where any or all of these things took place in the quoted article, and why it presented incorrect or flawed information? ... I thought not. Sorry to intrude in net.kids where I know there's a contract out on my life. Further discussion in private or in net.philosophy, please. -- "Does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body? I dunno." Rich Rosen {ihnp4 | harpo}!pyuxd!rlr