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Subject: Re: Re: Re: The FORCE of Property -- More Straw Men
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Date: Mon, 21-Jan-85 01:32:44 EST
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> > > However for Libertarians to argue that the reign of private property
> > > will mean the end of all force is an error.  
> >
> > Excuse me, but I don't recall hearing any libertarian advance that 
> > position.  To tell people that your opponents make points that your
> > opponents do not in fact make is called "building a straw man".
> 
>      Yes, indeed.  But what you may not realize is that Sevener just LOVES to
> build straw-men.

I have seen some pretty silly things that libertarians have posted
lately, which leads me to suspect that Tim Sevener doesn't really need
to build straw men to make people look stupid. Here are some from the
recent Libertaria debate: (I have forgotten who posted this, but there
was not a shred of support for these claims)

> ... the legal code would be so much easier to understand it would
> be inconceivable that a lawyer's prowess would enter into the play.

> How about Jill is constantly employed, since there is no unemployment.
> Jill doesn't have to worry about inflation and has had enough money to
> save up for her future years.  

> Her sons both opted not to join the service
> since there was little incentive (think what the volunteer armed services
> would be like if there were 100% employment of civilians...).

Now, I wouldn't think of claiming that these are typical Libertarian
arguments, but they certainly aren't "straw men" either... (Unless
anybody suspects me of having lots of accounts all over the country
from which I post all the stupid arguments that I want to disagree
with, under assumed names...)

	Wayne