Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Libertarianism & Luck Message-ID: <447@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-Jan-85 17:52:57 EST Article-I.D.: whuxl.447 Posted: Tue Jan 22 17:52:57 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Jan-85 05:50:52 EST References: <272@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <547@ccice2.UUCP> <428@whuxl.UUCP> <317@topaz.ARPA> Organization: Bell Labs Lines: 37 > > tim sevener: > > Why should a few people gain all the benefits of the economic system > > and many other people sustain the losses? Is there really anything wrong > > with balancing out such benefits and losses to a certain extent? > > > > If someone is lucky to be alive, are you justified in killing him? > > --JoSH Who is suggesting killing anybody? On the other hand there IS a valid ethical concern here: the average lifespan for the affluent is much greater than that for the poor and people in the Third World. Right now, as we know thousands are starving in Ethiopia. But this was merely the event the media has temporarily decided to focus on. In fact many people are starving all over the world, and have been for some time. The solutions to this problem are not necessarily just to send massive amounts of food. The long-term solution involves promotion of a more efficient agricultural system in these countries through land reform, government price supports, provision of extension services to provide technical aid to peasants who often use inefficient methods. Will it kill the affluent to provide some money to assist in helping their fellow humans in the rest of the world? Of course, Libertarians will now suggest that it is just a question of getting people to *voluntarily* contribute to help the starving in the rest of the world. I would agree this would be better than promoting such efforts through taxation. But this is largely the system we have right now. The government is not stopping anybody from contributing to relief organizations or very good organizations like Oxfam America (which funnels its aid to help *production* and not just the provision of food itself). Is this working? What Libertarians are mounting a campaign to contribute to those starving in the rest of the world? If the advocates of totally voluntary action are unwilling to volunteer their own time, money and energy to help the starving, then who is? tim sevener whuxl!orb