Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fisher.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!astrovax!fisher!david From: david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: What is socialism? Message-ID: <501@fisher.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-Jan-85 11:16:00 EST Article-I.D.: fisher.501 Posted: Thu Jan 24 11:16:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 25-Jan-85 21:03:51 EST References: <309@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <329@topaz.ARPA> Organization: Princeton Univ. Statistics Lines: 23 >The epitome of socialism, and a good example of a nation where the >state-first, individual-last ideals of socialism were taken to their >logical conclusion, is Germany under National Socialism in the '30's >and '40's. >--JoSH If you believe that the National Socialists were Socialists, then you probably also believe that the German Democratic Republic is a Democratic Republic (at least it is German, right?). In fact, the adoption of the term "Socialist" by the Nazis was done in order to cash in on the appeal the term had in the early '20s to German industrial workers. Goebbels spent much ink on explaining why only the Nazis were "Socialists", uncorrupted by "Marxian" thought, and that "Socialism" was well represented in the feudal structure of the Holy Roman Empire. And you fell for it!!! David Rubin P.S. JoSH's critically wrong assumption is that all "state-first, individual-last" philosophies are socialist. Actually, there are many varieties, some socialist, some not. The Nazis fall in the latter category.