Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/23/84; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!faustus From: faustus@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Re: Conscription/Slavery Message-ID: <78@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Sun, 27-Jan-85 13:30:05 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.78 Posted: Sun Jan 27 13:30:05 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 29-Jan-85 05:55:59 EST References: <1203@drusd.UUCP> <676@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> <75@ucbcad.UUCP> <683@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group, Berkeley, CA Lines: 25 > In article <75@ucbcad.UUCP> faustus@ucbcad.UUCP writes: > >> > "Those who would enjoy the blessings of liberty > >> > must endure the burden of supporting it." > >> > - Thomas Payne > >> Right. So let those who don't want the blessing not endure the burden, > >> as opposed to throwing them in jail. > >> >Oh, so you don't want liberty? > > No, Wayne, I didn't say I didn't want liberty. I said that those who didn't > want liberty shouldn't have to pay for it. Of course, today you have to pay > for it, but don't get it. So if there were a war, you would enlist in the army in order to protect your freedom? If everybody felt this way I would be happy to see conscription eliminated. I'm afraid, though, that most people aren't as likely to feel this way, but rather to let somebody else go and fight for their freedom because they are too shortsighted, or value their freedom too little to risk dying for it. In a case like this, it seems that if the freedom of a few people isn't compromised by conscription, then soon nobody will be free. (We assume that any nation attacking us is a totalitarian regime much less acceptable to libertarians than the present one.) Wayne