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From: fagin@ucbvax.ARPA (Barry Steven Fagin)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: freedom, democracy, etc:Reply to cliff
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Date: Thu, 31-Jan-85 13:57:41 EST
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Reply-To: fagin@ucbvax.UUCP (Barry Steven Fagin)
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Summary: 

>
>Perhaps I am wrong, but I have noticed a great concern with taxes as
>"theft" and so forth by Libertarians.  I guess one reason that the
>right to tax has been important in my own arguments is that I agree
>with removing victimless crimes from the legal code, preventing censorship,
>and abolishing draft registration.  

Sounds great so far ...

>But I cannot agree with arguments that there is no justification for taxation,
>or other such group fees as union dues.  

Ahh, how subtly it slips by.  Almost escapes one's notice.  Taxation is a
"group fee"?  Sure am glad to know I can cancel my membership at any time,
and can seek redress in the courts if I get screwed.

This is a perverted use of the phrase "group fee", and shows your 
reluctance to acknowledge the coercive nature of taxation.  

--Barry

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Barry Fagin @ University of California, Berkeley