Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 v7 ucbtopaz-1.8; site ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!edsel!bentley!hoxna!houxm!whuxlm!akgua!mcnc!decvax!ucbvax!ucbtopaz!mwm From: mwm@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: freedom and taxes Message-ID: <692@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Date: Thu, 31-Jan-85 04:16:48 EST Article-I.D.: ucbtopaz.692 Posted: Thu Jan 31 04:16:48 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 4-Feb-85 03:35:10 EST References: <630@wucs.UUCP> <452@whuxl.UUCP> <421@topaz.ARPA> <459@whuxl.UUCP> Reply-To: mwm@ucbtopaz.UUCP (Praiser of Bob) Distribution: net Organization: Univ. of Calif., Berkeley CA USA Lines: 27 Summary: I normally try to ignore this man, but this is just to easy. In article <459@whuxl.UUCP> orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) writes: >Again, it is up to *Libertarians* who attack taxation to prove that taxation >is a diminution of freedom in other than economic terms. >I anxiously await a reply................ > tim sevener whuxl!orb How about freedom from supporting the war in Central America? Freedom from paying for yet more missiles? Freedom from helping to feed the middle class welfare bureaucracy? Freedom from supporting the baby-sitting&brainwashing service that calls itself a public school system? Freedom from supporting someone else's idea of a "fair" distribution of wealth? [Are there any statists I haven't made mad yet? :-] BTW, Tim, in answer to your comments about the libertarian myopia regarding the state, I'll repeat the answer that's been given every time that comes up. There is no such myopia. The focus is on people who use force (or the threat thereof) to control others. It doesn't matter if the people using the force are the government, unions, businessmen, or my neighbor down the street. Just so happens that the group most into this kind of thing is the government, with (other) organized crime being a distant second. I'll leave repeating the other answers that Tim likes to ignore up to someone else.