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From: lef@nlm-vax.ARPA (Larry Fitzpatrick)
Newsgroups: net.rec.wood
Subject: Re: glue and stain
Message-ID: <122@nlm-vax.ARPA>
Date: Thu, 31-Jan-85 11:18:51 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan 31 11:18:51 1985
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Reply-To: lef@<1828@tekig1.UUCP>.UUCP (Larry Fitzpatrick)
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Summary: 

In article <tekig1.1828> briand@tekig1.UUCP (Brian Diehm) writes:
>> 
>> Bottom line: don't let the glue get on, wash off what does, sand off any
>> residue when dry.  You may still want to seal just the end grain for
>> more uniform color.
>> 
>
>Using water will thin the glue, which then soaks better into the wood - just
>where you don't want it around the joint.  Instead, let the glue bead up (but
>try to minimize the excess), and when it "skins over" pretty well (~15 mins)
>THEN scrape the beads off with a cabinet scraper.  Without the pressure of a
>clamped joint, the glue doesn't penetrate the wood beyond 1/64" (if that), and
>the scraping of the skinned glue removes ALL TRACE of the excess!
>
>Anyway, a golden rule according to many sources, and according to my personal
>experience, is NEVER WASH OFF GLUE.  Period.
>
>-Brian Diehm


I have to agree with Brian. The rule is DONT WASH off glue adn the
procedure he outlined for removing the glue is the accepted method.

As far as staining before gluing goes, the ONLY time you might want
to do this is if you are trying to match a wood. That is, part of
your construction uses a wood different than the main wood in the
piece and you want to stain that wood to look like the main wood.

For example:
Commonly, birch plywood is used with cherry, walnut, etc pieces for
structural reasons, and since birch's grain is similar to cherry and
walnut, you stain the birch to match the other hardwood. In this case
you want to make sure the finish you give it will match the natural 
wood if the piece. Hence the staining is done before the gluing.

	-fitz

Larry Fitzpatrick
lef@nlm-vax