Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Pesmard Flurrmn) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Arndt, Galileo, and Physics Message-ID: <408@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Jan-85 18:34:29 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxd.408 Posted: Mon Jan 28 18:34:29 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Jan-85 04:19:45 EST References: <20274@lanl.ARPA> Organization: Strongarm Collection Agency: WE HAVE NO SLOGAN Lines: 21 > As a physicist, I think I know something about the history of my > scientific field. It is true that what the RC Church did to Galileo > was reprehensible. But I find no evidence that their actions would > have been any different had they been the Church of Ubizmo or the > Secular State of Rosenland. [BILL PETER] This sounds distinctly similar to the "discussion" going on between myself and Paul Dubuc, only more so. The scenario: someone "admits" that the "church" was wrong in admonishing those who prefer reality to assumption, but then the tables are turned and it is said that "non-religion is no better!" Never mind the fact that this person has simply arbitrarily lumped anything that is NOT religion (including fascistic despotism, which is simply religion with a different cast---worship the state and the leader just as you used to worship god, or, if you like, believe that the state/leader is god's chosen on earth) in one trash heap. Just because you feel like it. Never mind that at all... -- "Pardon me for breathing which I never do anyway so I don't know why I bothered to mention it--Oh, God, I'm so depressed." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr