Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-ngp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!kjm From: kjm@ut-ngp.UUCP (Ken Montgomery) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: MHCS results Message-ID: <1247@ut-ngp.UUCP> Date: Sat, 26-Jan-85 19:28:48 EST Article-I.D.: ut-ngp.1247 Posted: Sat Jan 26 19:28:48 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Jan-85 06:34:33 EST References: <260@teklds.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: U.Texas Computation Center, Austin, Texas Lines: 52 [This is cross-posted from net.flame, where it doesn't belong...] >I really think this should be moved to net.religion or something but >here goes anyway, since you are discussing it here. OK, I'm moving it to net.religion. >I think the term cult in general terminology today means: >1. Any religion that teaches that man can become God. >2. Any religion that teaches that Jesus was not God. I see. Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Shinto, Baha'i, Buddhism, Paganism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Animism, and other varied and sundry religious faiths are "cults" because they're not Christianity. Right... WRONG! None of the above (*including* Christianity) has any greater claim to validity than any other. *Each* of the above is based on (in my experience) undemonstrable initial principles. Christians calling other religions "cults" because the others are non-Christian are only showing their Christian(oid)ocentric bigotry. >These two beliefs are opposed to christianity which is what uses the >term cult. > >karen alias larryg Christianity is not a person. It is not capable of language. Its adherents, who are persons, are the entities who use terms, including "cult". BUT, since when did using a term give one a monopoly on defining it?! I am not a Christian. I do, however, use the term "cult". Ergo your claim about who uses it is observed to be false. My roommate's dictionary defines a cult to be "a system of religious worship or ritual", or "a group of followers". By this definition, Christianity is a cult. In addition, I understand one of the primary connotations of "cult" is that the religion is somehow threatening and/ or dangerous to its followers. In that light, Christianity is most definitely a cult. To summarize karen alias larryg: "Hello, Kettle? This is Pot. Thou art black." BTW, Kudos to David Canzi for the term "Christianoid". It's excellent! -- The above viewpoints are mine. They are unrelated to those of anyone else, including my cats and my employer. Ken Montgomery "Shredder-of-hapless-smurfs" ...!{ihnp4,allegra,seismo!ut-sally}!ut-ngp!kjm [Usenet, when working] kjm@ut-ngp.ARPA [for Arpanauts only]