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Subject: Re: Bill Peter as an Authority on the Mind of Wingate
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Date: Mon, 4-Feb-85 00:28:56 EST
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[Charley Wingate:]
> Mr. Peter should restrain his speculations.  I don't believe that ORU's
> actions are ethical.  Mr. Peter is, as usual, reading too much into my
> silence; I simply was not aware of their actions (although I do not find it
> suprising). 

O.K., Charley.  I'm sorry.  Please forgive me.  I'll never do it again.
Honest.

> As for the implication he makes that Israel has the right, nay,
> the duty to protect jewish culture/religion from the christians: the same
> argument justifies a christian nation (such as Britain) acting to supress
> non-christian groups.

I made no such implication, Charley.  Shame on you.  However, I did say that
Israel has the right to stop extending the temporary visas of foreign nationals.
Especially when such aliens are being mischievous.                          

Would you deny Israel the same right that the U.S. and other countries
exercise every day?

> 
>Besides, are the minds of jewish children so fragile that they have to be
>protected from those evil christian missionaries?  :-)

Sigh.  Here we go again.  People everywhere have the right to their own 
beliefs without constantly being molested because of them.  I have nothing
but contempt for people who seek out children as objects of proselytization.
Charley, why don't you ask yourself *why* after two thousand years of
the history of your religion, you are still peeved that we are unconcerned
about your theology?  I don't care if you want to worship a nice Jewish
boy from Nazeret as your god.  But after two thousand years, please leave  
us alone, and we all can live happily on this planet together.  After 
all, it has been two thousand years.  How much longer do you need?        

>I find it interesting                    
>that Mr. Peter does not condemn the continual brainwashing against christian
>mores that we see in this country.  Would Mr. Peter care to issue a
>statement?

First Rich Rosen infers I'm christian, and now Mr. Wingate calls upon me as an
expert witness.  CONFESSION:  I don't know what christian mores are.  In fact,
I'm not all too sure what christians are.  The methodists tell me the baptists
aren't, the baptists say the mormons aren't, the catholics say....

Can Mr. Wingate tell us more about his "brainwashing" theory?  Does it have
something to do with speaking in tongues?  Rapture?  Revelations?  Close-Up
toothpaste?

My last point, Charley.  Are you concerned about the brainwashing in this
country against Ubizmatism?  Why don't you read up on it?  Rich Rosen has
all the references.  Did you ever wonder why Rich is the only one left...?
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