Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!fortune!brower From: brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Christianiod intolerance Message-ID: <4935@fortune.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-Jan-85 21:45:39 EST Article-I.D.: fortune.4935 Posted: Tue Jan 29 21:45:39 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Jan-85 19:10:10 EST Distribution: net Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 56 OK, I surrender. People have told me before that trying to carry on a reasoned argument with any kind of a Christian fundamentalist is not possible, but I had to try for a while. But I'll give up now, really. (I may read this for some time in the future, but I'll quit bothering trying to communicate with Christianoids, after posting this article.) Boswell showed that the basis for the current homophobic crisis was some mistranslations and the thoughts of some of the 'Saints' during the the dark ages. Well, I knew that that wouldn't change anyone's mind. But the way I see the Christianoids twist and turn things from the Bible has finally made me turn away in complete disgust. Now you can pick and choose the laws in the Old Testament that you will follow, you can lie to yourselves and others about how good you are and how evil faggots are while you cook your Sunday ham. Well, I claim to not being a Christian, not because I doubt the validity of Christ's claim to being God and not because of His teachings, which seem reasonable and self evident; but because I cannot in good conscience join with those who are such hypocrites. As for the fact that I cannot marry my boyfriend (we've been together for four plus years), that is a matter of the law of the land which I would like to see changed, but the Christianoids wouldn't allow such changes to go through. I would have been perfectly happy to see that Steven had medical benefits while I was sending him to school, the tax savings during that time when he didn't have an income would have been substantial (although we'll make up for that now that he is working), and there will be some difficulty in probate since we are not married that would be eased if we were married. They would rather see me starve on the street because nobody would give me work or rent me a place to live (as they have shown time and again by working to defeat civil rights legislation). And of course all the time that they are trying to keep me from having any rights to jobs or home, they keep giving me this line that it isn't that they hate gay people... So, go stand up in your churches and temples and pray, "Thank you Lord, for not making me a filthy faggot like that Richard Brower character...", but quit with the lies. You cannot love me and claim that my lifestyle is evil. You cannot love me and claim that my relationship is invalid. You cannot love me and refuse me jobs and housing. You cannot love me by throwing me in jail or having me put to death. You cannot love me and throw my brothers out of your churches (I left by myself, but I know when I'm not wanted). You are not fooling anyone one with this love talk, except possibly yourselves. You are not fooling me, you are not fooling your gay children (yes, Christianoids do have gay children who suffer their parents beliefs the rest of their lives), and you are not fooling good old JC. "By their fruits, you shall know them." -- Richard A. Brower Fortune Systems {ihnp4,ucbvax!amd,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!brower