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From: ask@cbdkc1.UUCP (A.S. Kamlet)
Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish
Subject: Re: Re: questions
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Date: Sun, 3-Feb-85 15:01:31 EST
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Posted: Sun Feb  3 15:01:31 1985
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> David Esan  (!moscom!de)
> > karen alias larryg

> > First of all, if God is not a person, then what about the appearance
> > to Abraham, Jacob and Moses?  How could Abraham and God be friends, and
> > didn't God speak to people individually?
> 
> We hold that G-d does not have a form and is everywhere.  If you check his
> appearances to the Patriarchs you will find that he always appeared in a
> dream.  Moses is the single person in the Bible to whom G-d spoke face to
> face.

Well, perhaps.  "You cannot  see My face, for Man shall not see Me and live."
   --Exodus XXXIII, 20.
   "...I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and it shall come to pass
    while My glory passes by, that I will put you in a cleft of the rock,
    and will cover you with My hand until I have passed by.  And I will
    take away My hand, and you shall see my back; but my face shall
    not be seen."   --Exodus XXXIII, 22-23.

> We are taught that this reference, and the reference of the Egyptians
> to the finger of G-d, and the passing of G-d over the Jewish homes and through
> Egypt during the plague of the deaths of the first-born, are but allegorical.
> a primitive person, and even many sophisticated people, have trouble dealing
> with a god with no body or form.  These descriptions are not(!!!) literal,
> but figurative.
> 
> > Jesus taught that the temple was no longer made of human hands, I think
> > there is a reference to this in the Bible, not New Testament, but now
> > God wants to dwell in the human heart.
> 
> I would like a reference to this source.  Too much of the Bible has been
> mistranslated to accept a memory rather than a quote.
> 

I second the request for a reference from T'N'CH (What is often called
the old testament.)

> > Jesus claimed to be a descendent of David and the first
> > and last king.
> 
> While this response belongs in net.religion, and part of the article was
> lost by a bad terminal at the source, I must respond quickly.  This is
> a strange claim, since the descendant of David in the Christian Bible is
> Joseph not Mary, who according to dogma bore no genetic link to Jesus.
> 
> 				David Esan  (!moscom!de)

I won't make the claim that I'm a decendent of David; but I might be.
In fact, if someone could prove to me tomorrow that I was, I'd probably
say, "Well, how about that?" and go right on with my business.

> > that's all for now since my terminal is going on the fritz.
> > 
> > karen alias larryg
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Art Kamlet   AT&T Bell Laboratories  Columbus   {ihnp4 | cbosgd}!cbrma!ask