Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sfmag.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxm!sftig!sftri!sfmag!samet From: samet@sfmag.UUCP (A.I.Samet) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Ethiopian Jews, Racist Ultra-Orthodox, and "Who is a Rabbi?" Message-ID: <475@sfmag.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Feb-85 18:29:34 EST Article-I.D.: sfmag.475 Posted: Mon Feb 4 18:29:34 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 6-Feb-85 05:14:17 EST References: <3780002@csd2.UUCP> <307@mhuxm.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Summit, NJ Lines: 66 When issues like Who is a [ Jew,Rabbi,etc] degenerate into lengthy attacks on the "self-righteous, tyrannical, intolerant, bigoted, politically-motivated, closed-minded, etc" people like me who subscribe to the "ultra-orthodox" position, it's generally futile to try to convince attacker that we are not that way. Hopefully, however, the following reflections will help the thinking person gain a more tolerant attitude towards the Torah mentality which so irritates him. American democracy arose in response to persecution. That persecution was largely "in the name of religion" and the constitutional antidote engraved separation of church and State so indelibly in our society that it became "Holy" to many Americans as did "Democracy". To some, religion evokes images of divisiveness, tyranny etc. The deterrent to such abuses is "government of the people ..." rather than by would-be dictators pontificating in the name of Heaven. A little thought will tell us that democracy ain't perfect. A Hitler could come to power via democratic election. Still, democracy seemed preferable to the earlier alternatives... Given this perspective, it becomes easier to understand Orthodox Ultracynicism towards the values they are challenging. First of all, it's unrealistic to expect a Torah non-illiterate to place Democracy at the top of his value system. He starts with a Torah as a frame of reference and deals with the host environment pragmatically. (As an aside, the common misconception that Torah commitment requires blind faith stems from guilt by association with other "religions".) The Torah-based Jew can recognize and be grateful for the benefits of modern democracy while keeping in perspective that it evolved to correct for problems in in the "other" world that produced crusades, pogroms and inquisitions "in the name of Heaven". To keep Heaven out of politics, democracy substituted the voter for G-d as the arbiter of values and the source of legitimate power. If the Jew drifted from Torah values, that universalist orientation was by default, likely to permeate his value system. But if he clinged to the Torah he saw democracy more as the local rules of the game than the Holy of Holies. Within the Jewish family, it's another matter. Why should democracy supercede the Torah and rabbinic authority? Why give up the moral, legislative, and judicial legacy that we sacrificed our lives to perpetuate for millenia? Why be intimidated by name callers who rarely comprehend what they are attacking? If we are to discuss and share in shaping the future of our people, then please, before you attack me for imposing my values on you, examine your own sacred cows, and their roots. If you read up to here, then thanks for your understanding. sincerely, Yitzchok Samet 201-522-6011