Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pyuxc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxc!chris From: chris@pyuxc.UUCP (R. Hollenbeck) Newsgroups: net.women,net.singles Subject: Re: Pornography Message-ID: <606@pyuxc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-Jan-85 10:16:14 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxc.606 Posted: Tue Jan 22 10:16:14 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Jan-85 07:40:53 EST References: <601@pyuxc.UUCP>, <677@utcsrgv.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway, NJ Lines: 39 Xref: watmath net.women:4199 net.singles:5540 So far I've been called a jerk and had my submission called silly, but I have yet to see a good explanation of why. Why all this bile? I simply suggested a possibility based on a few bits of information that came my way, including one from a woman (why, if one of the key bits of information comes from a woman, does Sophie tell me to ask a woman?) What I suggested may be true or false; it doesn't really matter, as long as we keep trying to get to the truth. But I don't think knee-jerk feminist reaction gets any of us anywhere in this or any other discussion. Let me offer another defense of pornography; one of the ideas that was at the basis of our society and our constitution was the free marketplace of ideas (I believe the author of the notion was John Stuart Mill, but I'm not sure, and I sure don't need millions of bits of flame heaped on me if I'm wrong). Anyway, this idea basically said that the best way to get at the truth was to give all ideas a chance to be expressed, so that the best ideas would survive. Sort of a Darwinian approach - survival of the best ideas. To the extent that pornography represents ideas, the point is not that those ideas are necessarily good, but that suppressing them would create far greater harm. Opposing ideas would have nothing to oppose and therefore might not be subjected to the testing they would otherwise receive. Furthermore, a precedent would be set for limiting thought within certain "acceptable" boundaries. Put another way, we can't require all forms of expression to conform to our (your, whosever) standards of ideological correctness. To do so would be to limit our freedom and to limit society's search for truth. Or, we can just get to the meat of it and say that it's nobody's goddamn business what other people read or see; if you don't like it, don't read it.